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	<title>Comments on: Third Generation Network, First Generation Strategy: My short experience with Hutchison 3G</title>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.eire.com/2005/08/04/third-generation-network-first-generation-strategy-my-short-experience-with-hutchison-3g/comment-page-1/#comment-46186</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think this will make any difference. It&#039;s cut off at the network level. You might be able to figure out a way to get it to work through a proxy, but it&#039;s tricky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this will make any difference. It&#8217;s cut off at the network level. You might be able to figure out a way to get it to work through a proxy, but it&#8217;s tricky.</p>
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		<title>By: Aidan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aidan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 14:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just today got myself a Nokia 6280 on 3 Ireland prepay and discovered that I cannot use the phone to surf the web. Which is what I thought a 3G phone was all about. 

I am really annoyed at this. I am wondering though if anyone has tried installing Opera Mini Web browser (by running the .jar files from the SD card) on the phone to see if this will bypass the 3 walled garden approach??

Please let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just today got myself a Nokia 6280 on 3 Ireland prepay and discovered that I cannot use the phone to surf the web. Which is what I thought a 3G phone was all about. </p>
<p>I am really annoyed at this. I am wondering though if anyone has tried installing Opera Mini Web browser (by running the .jar files from the SD card) on the phone to see if this will bypass the 3 walled garden approach??</p>
<p>Please let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Hotguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hotguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would recommend some one to start a blog in Chennai too. We happen to have a lot of network blocks which doesnt allow people to make outgoing as well as receive incoming calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would recommend some one to start a blog in Chennai too. We happen to have a lot of network blocks which doesnt allow people to make outgoing as well as receive incoming calls.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey guys anyone tried to configure a european phone to connect to AOL, msn or yahoo messenger without their phone service integrating it by monkeying with the phone internet settings? anyone know what the settings and servers are to hook it up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey guys anyone tried to configure a european phone to connect to AOL, msn or yahoo messenger without their phone service integrating it by monkeying with the phone internet settings? anyone know what the settings and servers are to hook it up?</p>
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		<title>By: Bala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear sir,

i want to use 3g mobile in chennai how can i go for the network is that service provided in ur network. pls do the needful to use the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear sir,</p>
<p>i want to use 3g mobile in chennai how can i go for the network is that service provided in ur network. pls do the needful to use the system.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all of the above and what is even worse is that if you are outside of the video service area you have no web access at all, so you cant get to see even text only articles in the news for example. I have also found that when not in 3G area and presumably served by Vodafone, the voice quality is  actually really poor.
I&#039;m sending my phone back , which is a shame as it is a nice phone (Motorola) aand the €25 a month for 200 minutes is a good deal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all of the above and what is even worse is that if you are outside of the video service area you have no web access at all, so you cant get to see even text only articles in the news for example. I have also found that when not in 3G area and presumably served by Vodafone, the voice quality is  actually really poor.<br />
I&#8217;m sending my phone back , which is a shame as it is a nice phone (Motorola) aand the €25 a month for 200 minutes is a good deal</p>
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		<title>By: johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Europe : 3, the UK&#039;s first video mobile network, today announced the launch of two new services to deliver a high quality mobile internet experience. From mid-September customers on 3 will be able to sign up to the two new services &#039;Mobile Web&#039; and the &#039;Wireless Web&#039;. 

Mobile Web
The 3 Mobile Web service will enable customers to visit hundreds of the internet&#039;s most popular sites direct from their video mobiles while ensuring a high quality viewing experience. For a flat rate of just £2.50 per month, customers with a contract on 3 will be able to download up to 5 MegaBytes of content, or an average of 500 pages each month from the &#039;Mobile Web&#039;, depending on the richness of the page. 

The &#039;Mobile Web&#039; significantly extends 3&#039;s service for customers, by offering them access to websites that are optimised for viewing on compatible video mobiles. This means the customer can be sure that both front pages and sub-pages are viewable, that the speed of download is high and that all the site&#039;s key activities are available. 

3 expects the number of sites accessible through the &#039;Mobile Web&#039; to grow quickly as more sites are optimised and has invited customers to nominate sites they would like to access from their mobiles. 

Gareth Jones, COO of 3, said: &quot;We are about offering the best of the web on mobile and ensuring the customer experience. Currently only a fraction of the internet works well on mobile - but the good news is that many of the UK&#039;s most popular sites, including the BBC, eBay and Amazon have now been optimised. We are committed to extending the choice of high-quality video mobile services - this service means the best of internet is now available to our customers over their mobiles. 

He added: &quot;This is a two-way street, we have over three million customers and we want our customers&#039; help - we&#039;re asking them to nominate what sites they want and we&#039;ll check whether they make sense on mobile. We expect to add hundreds more over the coming months.&quot; 

3 will continue to offer services directly through its &#039;Today on 3&#039; entertainment channel, as well as via a range of sites managed by partners such as lastminute.com and FHM - which offer a bespoke mobile experience. All 3 customers also have a unique 3 email address and access to off-portal content via video shortcodes. 

Wireless Web
&#039;Wireless Web&#039; will be available on 3 from mid-September to provide open internet access for customers with laptops, using their 3 handset as a modem. 

For customers with a contract on 3, the Wireless Web provides internet access at a flat rate of £45 per month, under this price plan customers will be able to download up to 512 MegaBytes of data. 

Graeme Oxby, Marketing Director of 3 UK said: &quot;For the mobile worker, the Wireless Web offers an unbeatable service to all our customers who currently have a contract on 3. Like all 3&#039;s products and services, we&#039;ve designed Wireless Web to be simple and easy to understand. It is simply priced, offering great value, simply packaged and as we have the best 3G coverage, we believe it is simply the best for service.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Europe : 3, the UK&#8217;s first video mobile network, today announced the launch of two new services to deliver a high quality mobile internet experience. From mid-September customers on 3 will be able to sign up to the two new services &#8216;Mobile Web&#8217; and the &#8216;Wireless Web&#8217;. </p>
<p>Mobile Web<br />
The 3 Mobile Web service will enable customers to visit hundreds of the internet&#8217;s most popular sites direct from their video mobiles while ensuring a high quality viewing experience. For a flat rate of just £2.50 per month, customers with a contract on 3 will be able to download up to 5 MegaBytes of content, or an average of 500 pages each month from the &#8216;Mobile Web&#8217;, depending on the richness of the page. </p>
<p>The &#8216;Mobile Web&#8217; significantly extends 3&#8217;s service for customers, by offering them access to websites that are optimised for viewing on compatible video mobiles. This means the customer can be sure that both front pages and sub-pages are viewable, that the speed of download is high and that all the site&#8217;s key activities are available. </p>
<p>3 expects the number of sites accessible through the &#8216;Mobile Web&#8217; to grow quickly as more sites are optimised and has invited customers to nominate sites they would like to access from their mobiles. </p>
<p>Gareth Jones, COO of 3, said: &#8220;We are about offering the best of the web on mobile and ensuring the customer experience. Currently only a fraction of the internet works well on mobile &#8211; but the good news is that many of the UK&#8217;s most popular sites, including the BBC, eBay and Amazon have now been optimised. We are committed to extending the choice of high-quality video mobile services &#8211; this service means the best of internet is now available to our customers over their mobiles. </p>
<p>He added: &#8220;This is a two-way street, we have over three million customers and we want our customers&#8217; help &#8211; we&#8217;re asking them to nominate what sites they want and we&#8217;ll check whether they make sense on mobile. We expect to add hundreds more over the coming months.&#8221; </p>
<p>3 will continue to offer services directly through its &#8216;Today on 3&#8242; entertainment channel, as well as via a range of sites managed by partners such as lastminute.com and FHM &#8211; which offer a bespoke mobile experience. All 3 customers also have a unique 3 email address and access to off-portal content via video shortcodes. </p>
<p>Wireless Web<br />
&#8216;Wireless Web&#8217; will be available on 3 from mid-September to provide open internet access for customers with laptops, using their 3 handset as a modem. </p>
<p>For customers with a contract on 3, the Wireless Web provides internet access at a flat rate of £45 per month, under this price plan customers will be able to download up to 512 MegaBytes of data. </p>
<p>Graeme Oxby, Marketing Director of 3 UK said: &#8220;For the mobile worker, the Wireless Web offers an unbeatable service to all our customers who currently have a contract on 3. Like all 3&#8217;s products and services, we&#8217;ve designed Wireless Web to be simple and easy to understand. It is simply priced, offering great value, simply packaged and as we have the best 3G coverage, we believe it is simply the best for service.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Latest from UK</description>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been looking at changing from vodafone for a
while - but have been caught because my home address does&#039;nt have 02/Meteor Coverage. I&#039;m considering changing to three because one big plus that Three has is that they have 2G net roaming with vodafone - so at a minimum your coverage is as good as vodafone - Secondly their prices for a user who has a 100 or more spend a month for vodafone bill pay means at least a 50% saving on voice (roughly) 
Meteor are by far and away the cheapest for voice calls at the moment however they don&#039;t have a 3G licence - three have a big plus in the fact that video calls and voice cost the same.
The only thing stopping me from moving straight away is that the number portability is&#039;nt set up properly yet.
As a vodafone customer who has gotten nothing from vodafone except expensive bills for the last 10 years - I would encourage everyone to change - As to which operator - I would say Meteor or Three - at least in the cases of these two they are competing somewhat on price.
The sooner everyone starts moving to the operators that are trying to be competitive on price - the sooner that we&#039;ll get reasonable call charges in Ireland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been looking at changing from vodafone for a<br />
while &#8211; but have been caught because my home address does&#8217;nt have 02/Meteor Coverage. I&#8217;m considering changing to three because one big plus that Three has is that they have 2G net roaming with vodafone &#8211; so at a minimum your coverage is as good as vodafone &#8211; Secondly their prices for a user who has a 100 or more spend a month for vodafone bill pay means at least a 50% saving on voice (roughly)<br />
Meteor are by far and away the cheapest for voice calls at the moment however they don&#8217;t have a 3G licence &#8211; three have a big plus in the fact that video calls and voice cost the same.<br />
The only thing stopping me from moving straight away is that the number portability is&#8217;nt set up properly yet.<br />
As a vodafone customer who has gotten nothing from vodafone except expensive bills for the last 10 years &#8211; I would encourage everyone to change &#8211; As to which operator &#8211; I would say Meteor or Three &#8211; at least in the cases of these two they are competing somewhat on price.<br />
The sooner everyone starts moving to the operators that are trying to be competitive on price &#8211; the sooner that we&#8217;ll get reasonable call charges in Ireland.</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I got a call from the contact centre in Three today, asking why I&#039;d sent the phone back. So I told &#039;em most of the above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I got a call from the contact centre in Three today, asking why I&#8217;d sent the phone back. So I told &#8216;em most of the above.</p>
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